tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post6490018019385163076..comments2023-10-15T10:29:12.991+01:00Comments on Karyn's erratic learning journey: Learning about bereavementThe upsychohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06345558899662051670noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-11700977794888371392009-07-04T13:16:45.705+01:002009-07-04T13:16:45.705+01:00I think that anybody who believes a model of human...I think that anybody who believes a model of human behaviour or psychology should be right all of the time for everybody is delusional, psychology is not yet a science. <br /><br />http://www.arachnoid.com/psychology/<br /><br />So the issues that Rob Robson’s opines that the Kubler Ross Grief Cycle is ‘debunked’ because it isn’t true for everybody all of the time is some what puerile or to use a coarser term; bullshit.<br /><br />By the way, congratulations on the contract - very well deserved I am certain.Garry Platthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684534108960971346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-41566068085798732182009-07-04T12:35:26.485+01:002009-07-04T12:35:26.485+01:00@Garry I can quite believe that. We have this tend...@Garry I can quite believe that. We have this tendency to see a model which kinda, sorta makes sense on some gut level and then we adhere to it come hell or high water, with little regard for whether or not it is based on sound theory. <br /><br />Hmmm. Where have we had that discussion before?<br /><br />I like this part of the quote Clive uses from the original post:<br /><br />"First of all, Kübler-Ross herself stated that people do not necessarily go through all of the stages, and if they do, it can be in any order. Indeed, people can experience a whole range of emotions at different times during grief."<br /><br />Which is more or less what I said.<br /><br />We need to be careful of misapplying models. There is that old adage about how when all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail.The upsychohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06345558899662051670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-2972987947580298262009-07-04T07:45:03.340+01:002009-07-04T07:45:03.340+01:00Apparently it's all pop psychology:
http://cl...Apparently it's all pop psychology:<br /><br />http://clive-shepherd.blogspot.com/Garry Platthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684534108960971346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-30090966436084410312009-07-03T07:42:27.503+01:002009-07-03T07:42:27.503+01:00@Garry I do, to an extent, and not just in relatio...@Garry I do, to an extent, and not just in relation to loss either. I recognise those phases in response to many setbacks and figurative body blows. I had something of a breakdown just over a year ago, and the recovery (still ongoing) followed similar lines. However, I don't think that it's linear, or that it always moves forward. Much as I don't think we obediently follow the Kolb learning cycle, I suppose.The upsychohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06345558899662051670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-21647715282618757862009-07-03T05:42:43.370+01:002009-07-03T05:42:43.370+01:00Flowing from this discussion Karyn did you or do y...Flowing from this discussion Karyn did you or do you find any legitimacy in the The Kübler-Ross grief cycle:<br /><br />http://changingminds.org/disciplines/change_management/kubler_ross/kubler_ross.htmGarry Platthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684534108960971346noreply@blogger.com