tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post4237419633377995802..comments2023-10-15T10:29:12.991+01:00Comments on Karyn's erratic learning journey: This digital native/immigrant thingThe upsychohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06345558899662051670noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-24901337994067255842007-06-21T10:35:00.000+01:002007-06-21T10:35:00.000+01:00Oh, sorry about that :) I notice that you make ref...Oh, sorry about that :) I notice that you make reference to the social software report from futurelab, so I guess you are already aware of all the great and freely available literature reviews, articles and so on their pages:<BR/><BR/>http://www.futurelab.org.uk/resources/publications_reports_articles/literature_reviews<BR/><BR/>If you were not I hope this can remedy somewhat my causing you to spend 60£ :-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-90205074880620959342007-06-21T09:50:00.000+01:002007-06-21T09:50:00.000+01:00Thanks, Thomas... I think! I went straight to Amaz...Thanks, Thomas... I think! I went straight to Amazon to have a look at that book and wound up buying it and 3 others to the tune of over £60! Just in case you're interested, they are: Scoble's "Naked Conversations" (long overdue on buying that one); "Young People and New Media" By Sonia Livingstone and "The Search: How Google and Its Rivals..." by John Batelle.<BR/><BR/>I think they will all prive very helpful for my dissertation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-26162694295572753382007-06-21T09:27:00.000+01:002007-06-21T09:27:00.000+01:00For a really insightful and research based treatme...For a really insightful and research based treatment of youth and technology and also notions such as 'digital natives' (or whatever metaphor) I can highly recommend the book "Screenplay" written by Keri Facer, John Furlong and Rosamund Sutherland. It is an academic publication but equally worth reading for parents, teachers, policy makers and so on.<BR/><BR/>In the book such metaphors are treated with a healthy skepticism - not abolishing completely some interesting aspects of them, but certainly not taking them at face value either!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-34344713133637770802007-06-10T15:28:00.000+01:002007-06-10T15:28:00.000+01:00Thanks for the comments. Ron and Neil, I feel your...Thanks for the comments. Ron and Neil, I feel your frustration! Ron: either the photos I've seen of you are very old or you are wearing well!<BR/><BR/>Harold, you make a good point about interactivity. My analogy certainly falls down, there, but I'm sure there are others that cover that base, too ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-81439701111876186972007-06-09T01:38:00.000+01:002007-06-09T01:38:00.000+01:00As a 50 year old, I have have been told that I am ...As a 50 year old, I have have been told that I am not a <I>digital native</I>, as if it is just a matter of age. I abhor the term. I've been using and programming computers since 1972 so if anybody has a genuine claim to understanding the affordances of digital technology, it's me. I would argue that those born into our technocratic society are actually handicapped by a lack of criticality because they have never lived differently. If I don't use a new digital innovation, just maybe it's because I choose not to rather than not having some innate affinity to it. <BR/><BR/>One more thing. I'm a naturalised Australian, immigrating from Canada twenty years ago. But I still get asked "how long are you here for?" My response has become evermore strident: Forever (you insular moron)! So this native/immigrant thing carries some extra baggage for me.rlubenskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518962181442701634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-14588395857673948862007-06-09T00:51:00.000+01:002007-06-09T00:51:00.000+01:00Maybe (just maybe, as I'm not really sure either) ...Maybe (just maybe, as I'm not really sure either) it's because we never interacted with the TV. It acted upon us. I see the stuff my boys are creating online and it's pretty neat.Harold Jarchehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462304722726586155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14184878.post-9407186388918099302007-06-09T00:44:00.000+01:002007-06-09T00:44:00.000+01:00Thanks for this, Karyn. I've always felt a little ...Thanks for this, Karyn. I've always felt a little uneasy about the whole native/immigrant distinction myself. It's almost as if we 'immigrants' are putting the 'natives' on a pedestal simply because they have always had access... yet I don't see nearly enough conversation being produced by the natives. The immigrants, on the other hand...<BR/><BR/>When all is said and done, it is what is done with the tools that matters, irrespective of who does it. I cannot help comparing this to an argument I had over which was the better platform for desktop publishing... and of course, for the consumer what was important was not whether the school magazine had been made on a Mac or a PC, but whether the quality of the final printout was good or bad. In other words, the PC/Mac was irrelevant, but the printer was priceless.<BR/><BR/>Immigrant/native... ultimately doesn't matter. What is being said does...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com